When I backtest a strategy, it shows the cumulative returns and cumulative Sharpe/Sortino. Is there any way to view the annualized figures instead? I find them much more insightful.
If not, does the Quantopian team have plans to add this option? The ability to toggle between cumulative and annualized figures would be easy to implement and really valuable for people like me.
You can get the cumulative metrics from the full backtest. Take a look at the tabs on the left-hand side:
And here are the periods:
Could you explain how you'd like to use the annualized metrics? I'd be curious to hear the use case. Thanks!
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Thanks, Alisa. When I refer to annualized figures, I'm talking about the compound annual growth rate (exponential mean) for the entire backtest, which is not the same as just taking the arithmetic mean of the 12 month returns for all the years. The use case is just that relatively small changes in the CAGR can result in large changes in cumulative returns, which makes it a less robust performance metric in backtesting. This is particularly true for long backtests (I use 2003-present) as cumulative returns can often be large and hard to interpret.
I would like to request that the Quantopian team add the option to see annualized figures. The calculations are relatively simple: for example, CAGR can be calculated as (1+cumulative return)^(1/(trading days/250)).
I wanted to clarify my post - the numbers in the risk metrics details are rolling statistics. Based on 1 month, 3 month, 6 month, and 12 month periods. Sorry for the confusion!
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Hi Param,
I appreciate your request. I just wanted to note that the rolling 3, 6, and 12 month periods are intended to give you insight into the quality of the returns. I think the rolling periods may actually be better than CAGR for this purpose. There's no averaging at all - we are simply reporting the returns for the trailing period.
Thanks again,
fawce
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Can somebody give me advise how to compare two algo performance using existing Quantopian risk metric.
1. Running on 12 years span .
2. Running on 8 years span.
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